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2/8/10

Suited justice by "Mother Kashmir" against Indian Occupation Troops

Seventeen Indian slumdog occupation troops have been killed after being buried alive in an avalanche near Khilanmarg.

It's a time to celebrate, to offer prayers of thanks, to hand out treats, to hug our fellow Kashmiris for this joyful news. If you are really keen, let's also light up some loud firecrackers.

What appropriate justice this is. After all, this is the least we could have hoped for after these slumdogs brutally murdered four innocent Kashmiri civilians in the last few weeks.

I am not the one to rejoice at the loss of any human life. But when we talk of the Indian slumdog occupation troops, we are talking of inhuman, conscience-less lowlifes. They cannot be considered human and do not deserve any sympathy. They have killed far too many innocent Kashmiri unarmed protesters to garner any sympathy from Kashmiris.

Kashmiris are inherently a gentle, non-violent race, and we have been known for our practice of non-violence over the course of history. This trait of our's has been used against us time and again to occupy our nation and subjugate us. But not anymore. It is time to show the Indians how much they are loathed in Kashmir.

The joy all Kashmiris feel today upon hearing this news is very similar to the joy that Indians feel when their news channels report the deaths of "Kashmiri terrorists" or "Kashmiri atankwadi" or "Kashmiri jihadis" or "Kashmiri ugarwadi" or "Kashmiri separatists" or even the joy that Indians feel when innocent unarmed Kashmiri protesters are killed. That is the same joy that Kashmiris feel today, when for a change, justice was served--not by some "terrorist" or "militant", but by nature itself.

To Kashmiris, the Indian Occupation Troops are the terrorists.

We hope and pray that nature repeats itself more often and kills more and more of these terrorist Indian slumdog soldiers for the sake of peace in Kashmir.

Let us celebrate with fervour this rare occasion for us to be happy.

Update: Another Indian slumdog died yesterday in yet another avalanche in Tangdar near Kupwor. (Details here). More reasons to celebrate.


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43 comments:

  1. It may sound a hoax, weird. But very well said. I was the first one who rejoiced the moment, I cant explain how happiness it gave me after reading this news in which 17 murderers were killed by nature, it was like soul soothing. And I am sure every Kashmiri will be feeling same as I did. Thanks to Snow God. Please keep it up!

    Such were these cruel creatures, nature wrath did not allow their blood to spill on to the sacred land called Kashmir and let them cease it in their veins. After 08 days of siege by these murderers we at least had a party. You are right in saying that we feel same as they Indians feel when so-called Aatak wardi read freedom fighter laid his life for liberation of Kashmiri Nation. Tanghdar avalanche is bonus for Kashmiris.

    To all you know, take my words, I promise you, believe me Kashmir will become India’s dooms days in years to come. Nature takes it course.

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  2. loved this news, may the whole 700,000 Indian slum doggy bastards in Kashmir meet a similar fate soon n die like dogs.

    I am ecstatic beyond joy, Thank you God...we cannot hurt these armed to the teeth Indian terrorist bastards with guns but lord, you r the greatest protector of poor n needy, just keep sending them hells way.

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  3. It was a treat. Om...Ar Abulla was grieved. Ali Sagar is mourning and othe Indian ass lickers are weeping. I promise that I will spend my lifetime earnings, in celebration, the day Ali Sagar's Son Salman is sent to hell by some one. Even if he is gunned down by CRPF or KP, I will celebrate. I know it sounds sadistic, but I cant stop myself from being happy at their sorrow and grief. Allah please show me Ali Sagar's weeping face. Ameen

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  4. can u please tell me how Indian Army has done injustice with you?...and what is your objective?..why are you not criticizing Pakistani army for what they do across the border. I am not saying that you should ignore the brutality, if any, shown by Indian Army but you should first give me your viewpoint on the whole situation.

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  5. @anonymous above

    You must be joking right?
    All Kashmiri blogs are primarily focused on expressing the injustices and atrocities of the Indian Army in Kashmir and you ask us to tell you what those injustices are?

    Just click on any topic on the right side of this blog and you'll get answers. There are about 150 topics to choose from.

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  6. This post reflects clearly that how much helpless we Kashmiris are in front of the worlds savageous army who shoots kids of Kashmiris for fun.Allahs calamity has fallen on 17 personell of Slumdog army and this has provided us a reason to rejoice.Allahs says no calamity befalls on you unless what your hands have earned so Indeed this is a punishment for the unbated atrocities committed on Kashmiris whoose only crime is that they oppose the occupation of their land their air and their life by Slumdogs.

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  7. It's a sort of fake encounter! Where dont fake encounters happen? I agree in Kashmir it's going out of control!

    Why is the Army present there? To defend our borders, the closest of which lies your state J and K! With Pakistan's continuous ceasefire violations for providing cover to militants, the Army's presence is the need of the hour. Atleast under them it may be under check otherwise terrorists will cross border and several more innocents will be killed! Which is better?

    Human injustice is everywhere in other forms may be around India not only in Kashmir! These sort of negative thoughts (happy with the avalanche killing jawans) will only embolden Pakistan!


    why are you not criticizing Pakistani army for what they do across the border. I am not saying that you should ignore the brutality, if any, shown by Indian Army but you should first give me your viewpoint on the whole situation.

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  8. @anonymous above

    //You said, "Why is the Army present there?..//

    They are in Kashmir to occupy our country of Kashmir and not to defend India's borders. India's borders end at Himachal Pradech.

    //you said, "..otherwise terrorists will cross border and several more innocents will be killed! Which is better?"..//

    Those you call "terrorists" are Kashmiri refugees who cross over to AJK to escape the tyranny of your Army. They do not kill innocent Kashmiris, your army does. Click on the previous posts of this blog and enlighten yourself.

    //..you said, "These sort of negative thoughts (happy with the avalanche killing jawans) will only embolden Pakistan!"..//

    No, what I said is fact. Kashmiris overwhelmingly celebrated the riddance of your army who were killed in an avalance. This is a fact and there is no use denying it. Whether it emboldens Pakistan or not is none of our concerns. We want you to vacate our country, and we'll do whatever is necessary to peacefully achieve this goal. Even if it means sowing the seeds of India's disintegration.

    //You said, "why are you not criticizing Pakistani army for what they do across the border."..//

    Why should I? They havent slaughtered 150,000 innocent Kashmiris or raped, maimed, plundered and brutalized my fellow Kashmiris like the Indian Army has done. There is only one villian in this saga: the Indian Army and other slumdog forces.

    //you said, "..you should first give me your viewpoint on the whole situation.".//..

    Click on my previos posts on the right hand column and you will get enlightened with the "whole situation."

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  9. "They havent slaughtered 150,000 innocent Kashmiris or raped, maimed, plundered and brutalized my fellow Kashmiris like the Indian Army has done"

    Are you a militant yourself? coz you sure sound like one. Kashmir was independent; your so called freedom fighters started killing innocent people and that is why Indian army is there.

    You are misleading people. Perhaps you are misled yourself.

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  10. @anonymous above

    //you said, "Kashmir was independent;"..//

    Good. I agree with you there.

    //you said, "your so called freedom fighters started killing innocent people and that is why Indian army is there."//

    Ok, if your army was just trying to help us like they did to the Sri Lankans when they were the IPKF, then it's about time they left. They're not welcome anymore. Why are they still here?

    By the worst exaggerated accounts, the so-called Kabalis killed not more than a few dozen people. In contrast, your terrorist army has killed more than 150,000 innocent unarmed Kashmiri civilians. Four in the past two weeks alone and more than a thousand last year. Read the more prominent ones about whom I have written on this blog.

    As far as the the so-called Kabali's are concerned, contrary to the misinformation being spewed by the biased Indian media and cooked up history books, reliable sources tell us that they in fact responded to pleadings of help from muslims in Jammu who were being massacred by Hindu fanatics--as was the norm against muslims in India. So the Hindu Dogra king, sensing his throne is endangered, pleads for help from your country. Why should Kashmiris pay for his decision?

    Our Prime Minister, Sheikh Abdullha, who was promised a plebiscite for all Kashmiris, was jailed for 22 years for demanding that promise be kept. Some truth your farcical democracy is founded on!!

    The rest, do some research on your own, or visit some older posts on this and other blogs linked here.

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  11. to the poster called BChuzHindustani

    Your post doesnt meet the standards of my blog.
    If you reword your post and remove the objectionable/hateful lines, and repost it. I will post it here.

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  12. Whose life? Whose land? Whose blood? Who is slaughtering? Who is occupying? Who is the victim? Who is oppressor? It is poor Kashmiris blood that is oozing from this paradise turned hell place called Kashmir by none other the drumbeaters of world’s largest democracy.

    All fingers are pointing towards Indian Army, which is the root cause of all problems. Indian army is saving whom? Indian Army is protecting whom? If the 700000 armed men can’t save themselves how they are going to protect the locals. All of you here in the board will agree with me that MORE INNOCENT WILL BE SAVED provided Indian Army is eradicated / is sent back to pre 1947 position. Remind you that had there be no arrival of Indian Army no Quballi would have marched to Kashmir, no Kashmir would have taken gun, no so called terrorist would have intruded, no MUMA KANNA would have got PADMA SHRI by killing 5000 militants and by tortured, murdered, plundered, battered and butchered innocent Kashmiris. It is evident to all that GOVT OF INDIA AND INDIAN ARMY IS PROTECTING THE KILLERS AND UNDEMOCRATICS FORCES OF 1987 at the cost of POOR INNOCENT KASHMIRI’S BLOOD.

    So Lets Celebrate. Cheers!!!

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  13. Oh man, Yousuf your responses to the Indian fellow were just too much. You should become a political writer. Your writing style reminds me of Tariq Ali. Acidic, unrelenting and painfully honest.

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  14. For Indians interested in evil Pakistan treatment of kashmiris: www.ajk.gov.pk

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  15. Its really unfortunate for the human race, that we as individual can consider death of few people as justice.

    Anything done by anyone does not justify there death I had wished that the Indian army men who had killed innocent Kashmiri's should have been brought to justice by law...

    I wish you will one day be able to change ur views and be more tolerant in life.... I know ur answer to that will be that "if this would have happened to you, only then you would i have realised" But thats not an argument. We won't survive this century as human race if we have this thinking...

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    anonymous above..//you said: "I had wished that the Indian army men who had killed innocent Kashmiri's should have been brought to justice by law.."//

    But they haven't been punished, have they? The AFSPA protects them.

    ..//you said: "I know ur answer to that will be that "if this would have happened to you, only then you would i have realised"//

    No. My question to you is instead of pontificating to us to not celebrate your so-called "martyr's sacrifices," why don't you protest your army murdering innocent Kashmiris? You took the time to post on this blog, have you ever similarly protested your army killing innocent Kashmiris by writing a "letter to editor" to your newspapers?

    When you do that, then only your argument of "precious life" will hold weight. Till then, you're just upset that your countrys' soldiers' death is being celebrated in Kashmir.

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  17. Hey Kashmiri Bro's... I being Indian seriously don’t understand your point of view. India is a peace loving country and has never first attacked any country. India is a secular country though it had the option of declaring itself Hindu (unlike Pakistan)...India sincerely believes that Kashmir belongs to India. In fact the entire Pakistan belonged to the undivided India. It were the Muslims from central Asia who invaded India first. However India does not believe that the innocent Muslims of India (who were their descendants’ or forcibly converted by them then) should pay for the mistakes committed by those invaders... These are the facts and that is India... A tolerent, openminded, secular, democratic republic....


    Coming to the point of killing/rape of the innocent Kashmiri youths by Indian Solders (though 1,50,000 is exaggerated claims), it is disgusting even for we Indians. If proved the criminal elements among the solders (not all solders are criminal) will be severely punished by the government of India. Unfortunately the Justice system of India is slow for any case (Even for example the Mumbai bomb blast) and there is no bias against Kashmiri people.

    But Let me assure you that India is going in the right direction and the people of Kashmir SHOULD fight for speedy justice for the Kashmiris (who are not militants) killed by the Indian Solders (I will also take up this cause), which for sure is UNAUTHORISED killings (For god knows what reason)...

    I also recommend you to watch the movie "Shaurya" directed by Samar Khan which will give an unbiased picture of the situation in Kashmir.

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  18. @Bidanda
    Your first para is incorrect. India invaded Kashmir. India attacked Pakistan, and India attacked China. All pre-emptive.

    As far as punishing Indian criminal soldiers, no one can do that because they are protected by AFSPA, which allows them to commit any crimes in Kashmir. Research about it and you'll find the truth.

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  19. @ Bidanda,

    "These are the facts and that is India... A tolerent, openminded, secular, democratic republic...."

    So why do you have Narendra modi n Gujarat, or Babri masjid or Kandhamal or Karnataka attacks on Churchs or massacre in Mumbai riots.

    What are you talking about.....but arent you Indians always politically correct.....I mean China,Nepal,Bangladesh,Burma,Srilanka etc are getting increasingly alienated from you as neighbours-Ever wonder why.....for God's sake Nepal is a Hindu State n still moving closer to China. C'mon fellas do some retrospection.

    Kashmir was never, is not and will never be a part of India, we are not Indians n never will be. The only way you can have this territory is by nuking us out n knowing you Indians, u r very much capable of doing so...I mean u burned approx 10,000 muslims alive in Gujarat to give them moksha.You talk about Muslim Invasions...they were your most secular leaders till date- THINK....Muslims ruled over a lot of India for over 1000 years and had they wanted to covert all Hindus to Muslims, they could've done that with considerable ease...............STRIKE A BELL.............Only those people were converted who wanted to get converted after listening to preachers of Islam. I guess you won't understand that but next time your political correctness comes whimpering around...ask yourself what you Hindus have given India in 60 years of your rule n then ask yourself what the muslims gave you in a 1000 years of their rule.

    Adios friend.

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  20. Hey Yousuf... you seem to be really dedicated to the cause you beleive in. I appriciate it (Though I disaggree on what you beleive).

    I disaggree on the point that India invaded Kashmir. It was Pakistan who invaded Kashmir in 1948. It was Pakistan who starded the 2nd war in 1965. It was China who started the war in 1961. However India started the war in 1971 to liberate Bangladesh as Pakistan army (West Pakistan) were killing innocent Bengali Muslims and Hindus of East Pakistan.

    Regarding AFSPA (Armed Forces Special Powers Act) even I beleive it has to be revoked. But it is easier said than done. If not for terrorism, most of whom are sponsored across the border, the act would not have been formed at all. Removing it will be a grave security threat for India as the terrorists will then walk with their head raised up. This just shows that it is because of these few terrorists the good people of Kashmir suffer and they blame India (also because of the crimes commited by the few solders without the authorization of the country).

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  21. "India is peace loving country that never attacked anybody"

    How about hyderabad, goa, sikkim, junagadh invasions?
    How about interference in sri lanka, maldives, nepal?
    How about massacres in occupied kashmir, gujrat and golden temple?

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  22. @Bindra
    India is an artificial country. North Indains who are mix of Aryans, Drividian and Turkish races have dominated South Indian Dravidian peace loving races. In North East, brutalities of pseudo- Indians have forced the locals to resort to militancy. Moist and Naksalism is eating up so called Indian oneness every day. Muslims of India are living life worst than the life of an insect. Muslims in India in the name of secularism are discriminated against. People like Narendra Modi are loved over here.
    As far as Kashmir is considered, it was never an Indian territory. It was occupied by Nehruvian henchmen through Indian interference. Since then , Kashmir is bleeding. I remember an old Kashmiri saying which says, " Batte kar gow, Gatte kar" meaning pandits work is a dark work. We have been occupied as a result of communal vendetta by Kashmiri Pandits who are just 2% of our population. We are beieng killed because we are Muslims, our ecology is being shattered because it is not Indian. Indian puppets and their henchmen like Mumma Kanna are being decorated with honours. A registered thief and cycle lifter Maqbool Sherwani has a road named after him in Srinagar for his role in the occupation of Kashmir by India. I can write endlessly but you wont read that all. Your "India is Great" illusion wont let you see the things black and white. You all are programmed zombies who cant think beyond that India Shining myth.

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  23. It is all rubbish. I did not say India is shining everywhere. We do have our drawbacks like for example only the worst of the lot seems to be prefering politics in India because of which they r incapable of resolving disputes like Kashmir and because of which our development is not what it should have been. We also have some black sheeps like Modi who didnt stop the communal riots in Gujarat with an iron hand (because of which BJP lost the comming central election). But what I say is india still works. There is defenetly no state sponsored terrorism (though there is inefficiency to prevent voilence in Kashmir). Most politiciens are after money but they defenetely do not condone attacks on innocents. The politicians are however a contrast of our great culture and of our past.

    The Muslims live as insects???? totally totally false. You have to come here and check out for yourself. The Muslim here thank god mighty allah for not going to Pakistan during the partision (A muslim told me this). They roam around freely and also go to resurants and night clubs with their families fearlessly. Though more conservative than the averege population they mingle freely with the Hindus. One example is in Hyderabad (40% muslim population)during Ganesha festival hindus play loud music. But during the Namaz time the music is off and they start again after the namaz time. India is an exemplary place of communal harmony though there are stary incidents like Ayodhya and Gujarat. Infacts the minorities are given extra priviledges as per Indian legislation which the Hindus are not happy about as they feel that the politicians esp Congress are doing it to get Muslim votes. That is why some people support BJP, RSS etc who are in favour of Uniform civil code and not a Hindu State. (They are not Hindu fundamantals unlike Shiv Sena, VHP and Bajarang Dal).

    So please understand the pulse of India and what India really stands for before criticising it. I feel the people of Kashmir (Most of whom are open minded people) will be more comfertable with a liberal minded India than a conservative Pakistan.

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  24. Hey Chinaar, With regard to the secularity of of Muslim Kings of India they were only a very few Like Akbar the great and Sahajhan (Who built Taj Mahal). Others have looted India. Come see the ruins of temples across India by Muslim Sultans. I will also show you the decendants of lot of people who were forcefully converted by Sultans like Tippu. Even Ayodhya temple was destroyed by Barber the 1st moghul Sultan who built the Babri Masjid in its place. That is why the BJP started the movement to dismantle the Mosque illigally built (Which I feel was needless). Please know the history of India. Middle east sultans like Ghazni and Gori have plundered the wealth of our country, looted it and gone back with a lot of booty. It is because of their looting and that of the British, India is in this situation. That is why some unmatured Indians are frustrated with Muslims. But people are more and more becoming more accepting now a days.

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  25. The only reason you kashmiris don't like us indians is because of pakistan. Pakistan is a very evil presence in the region. Don't you see we would be brotherly if it was not for those pakis?

    Did you know they eat little babies and their head has horn.

    if you join our hand in friendship, there is no limits to what we can do. we can give you education in our fine universities and you can reach the highest peak in the form of call center customer representative.

    India is shining.

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  26. @bidanda
    you said://We do have our drawbacks like for example //

    Fix your drawbacks first, which has killed millions of your minorites since India's unnatural creation, then come back to us. In the meantime we prefer Independence. Why force down your idea of a disfuntional country down Kashmiris throats? That's known as fascism. If it's "shining" for you, all the best to you, just don't drag your smaller unwilling neighbors like Kashmir, Assam, sikkim and others with you by sending 700,000 occupation troops to coerce people to join you.

    you said//the Muslims live as insects???? totally totally false. You have to come here and check out for yourself//

    We don't have to. Many foreign unbiased media, unlike your fanatic reporters, efficiently report the plight of muslims in India. Regardless, those are your issues, and Kashmiris do not wish to be part of your imaginary secular farce. We were much better off being independent for several millenia and will be much better off as independent.

    you said//India is an exemplary place of communal harmony though there are stary incidents like Ayodhya and Gujarat//

    Indians say: "We just slaughter thousands of muslims every once in a while but we are not Hindu fanatics"

    Nazis said: "We just slaughter Jews, Romas, and other minorities but Germany is an exemplary place of communal harmony"

    you said//So please understand the pulse of India and what India really stands for before criticising it//

    We understand your terrorist country pretty well to criticize it. There are 150,000 murders of Kashmiris, 9000 rapes, thousands of stories of inhuman torture, thousands missing, mass graves and no it hasnt stopped yet. So we are in a very good position to criticize your fascist country. It's you who must research and learn more before making such comments.

    you said//I feel the people of Kashmir (Most of whom are open minded people) will be more comfertable with a liberal minded India than a conservative Pakistan.//

    Read the blogs here and do some research before making unsubstantiated claims. 90% Kashmiris want independence. We do not want to be part of your fascist country--it's never going to happen. Dont be forcing countries that do not want to be part of your "shining" country to join you by sending 700,000 terrorist occupation troops. Do some research on how Germany was behaving in a similar fashion by invading smaller neighbouring countries--just like India has invaded Kashmir.

    Freedom is the most basic of human rights and India is an embodiment of what evil a country is capable of unleashing on others by military means.

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  27. @Chinaar
    Good analysis.
    Common sense prevails over hearsay and cooked up history.

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  28. Yousuf, Freedom is the most basic right... I agree... the People of Kashmir are given freedom. If terrorism stops by Pakistan then the troops will also be withdrawn. Most Indians would be shocked to hear what the people of Kashmir (mostly separatists) think of India. 1,50,000 is a huge huge number if true. If true this needs immediate reddresal by our easy going Politicians and the Indian Army.

    Fight for removal of AFSPA in the mean time. India has total freedom of press but the press people at their own discretion do sometimes report things favourable to India. Because of which most Indians do not know the the entire problem in Kashmir and think that it is only terrorists (mostly from Pakistan)who are killed and by mistake/negligence very few peaceful separatists or innocent people are killed. But I know it is defenetly more than a few and the armed forces think tank will have to do a closer follow up of what is happening at the ground level as a very URGENT Priority.

    But dont get influenced by the Pakistan media. It is directly controlled by the state. Pakistan also have distorted History being taught to children at school. The truth is hidden. Indians believe that the entire South Asia (with the exception of Maldives) should have been a part of India (as it was so before Muslim invasion) but past is past let us talk of today. However independence cannot be given to everyone who want it as it would be unreasonable. India has the 2nd highest Muslim population in the world and India is a home to Hindus/Muslims/Christians/Sikhs/Buddhists/Jews/ non religious people/ Hippies/ Kashmiris/ Assamees/ and all. India has had many well respected Muslim Presidents. What is happening in states like Assam? Majority people want to be in India, but the ULFA terrorists are killing innocent migrants, involve in Bomb blasts, collect money by force from local Assamees and they are now living rich lifes in countries like US. The ultimate sufferer is India and its people. If everyone are allowed to form separate countries then America would not have been America. So understand that India is not just for Hindus it is a land where only Hindus lived in the past but now is multi cultural. Even the Indus vally civilization 4000 years ago is Indian (but now in Pakistan). So I feel before demanding independence all of us should fight for our rights within this multidimensional, multi ethnic country.

    People like Farooq Abdullah/ Omar Abdullah/ Mufti's/ Gulab nabi Azad etc are not traitors of Kashmir but they are people who have understood the broader picture.

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  29. @Kashmir center
    Shouldn't it be "O"mar as per Indian media pronounciation?

    @chinar
    were you trying to send a link? try again

    @biddanda
    Either we are speaking different languages or you're simply not able to keep aside your prejudices.

    //You said: If terrorism stops by Pakistan then the troops will also be withdrawn//

    Can you explain exactly why you bring Pakistan when talking about the Kashmiri freedom struggle? Your answers will neatly illustrate your prejudices, I can assure you.

    There are less than 200 armed fighters in Kashmir in a population of 4 million Kashmiris who seek independence by peaceful means. There are more armed drug gang members in other cities than there are armed fighters in Kashmir. Where does Pakistan come into the picture here? If you're unable to answer this, then atleast try to keep aside your prejudices.

    //You said: But dont get influenced by the Pakistan media//

    Again, keep aside your narrow minded prejudices. Have you gone through our blogs here? Exactly where do you see references to Pakistan media? Just because you Indians habitually take what your media spews as holy scriptures, doesnt mean us Kashmiris rely on Pakistan media.

    //You said: However independence cannot be given to everyone who want it as it would be unreasonable.//

    Exactly why is that? It's one thing to make such an unsubstantiated statement--which neatly illustrates fascist ideology--but care to explain why that is? A British teen in Victorian times also might have felt that giving independence to any country occupied by the British Empire was unreasonable. And so would a Nazi in Nazi Germany.

    //You said: If everyone are allowed to form separate countries then America would not have been America//

    Exactly which American states want independence? Quebec in Canada wanted independence, and they were given a chance to vote democratically and choose between independence or stay with Canada, but majority voted to stay with Canada.

    The other option the Canadian government had was to follow India and send in the canadian military and slaughter 150,000 Quebecers to force them to stay with Canada--but they believed in democracy and not Indian fascism.

    //You said: Even the Indus vally civilization 4000 years ago is Indian (but now in Pakistan)//

    That's between you and Pakistan; Kashmir was never part of India. Never in ancient history has Kashmir had any Indian rulers. Until the Mughal period, Kashmir has always been independent. Even after that, never have we been part of India.

    And if the will of Kashmiri people to persevere is any guide, any future generations will also never want to give up our sovereignty to the Indians.

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  30. "Pakistani media is state controlled and her people are mind-controlled"

    My dear well meaning Indian friend S. Bidunda, if only Pakistan had that kind of control on us. We would be ten times more progressive, law-abiding and generally well-behaved society. Have you read our leading newspapers? Be it democracy or military rule, our editorials tear the government a new cavity on a daily basis. Just as you see nothing wrong in India (even the wholesale murder of kashmiris), we Pakistanis see nothing right in Pakistan!

    Please read Amir Ayaz, NFP, Irfan Hussain and a dozen others. It was the Pakistan media that was first to prove 26/11 conspirators pakistani residence (much to government embarassment).

    Do you think, perhaps, just perhaps there is one-one-trillionth chance that it is YOU that has been a victim of biased media?

    Warm Regards,
    Usman

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  31. As a Pakistani reading these Kashmiri blogs, It is difficult to determine what is most infuriating about the Indian posters at large:
    a. Holier-than-thou self-righteousness
    b. Tacky, petty self-congratulating
    c. A penchant for evasive verbal maneuvering to avoid the point at hand
    d. Denial of Indian hegemony betrayed by thinly veiled aspirations of South Asian primacy
    e. Delusional and stubborn belief in the mythical and non-existent Indian utopia.
    f. Pak-obsessed paranoia to the point where every unexpected pregnancy in India is blamed on ISI.
    g. Long, tired, miserable and worst of all boring lectures about India's 'shekularijm' and 'democraji' (only to be followed by Islamaphobic rants)
    h. Attempts to impress Kashmiris by reminding them of all the money mother India spends on Kashmiri 'inprastruckjure'
    i. A grisly disregard for Kashmiri life irrespective of man or woman, child or elder, militant or protestor.

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  32. @Pakistani brother/sister above
    //You said: f. Pak-obsessed paranoia to the point where every unexpected pregnancy in India is blamed on ISI.//

    Couldn't help laugh out loud while reading this.

    Brilliantly expressed. Loved reading your eloquent post.

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  33. Whatever I can do to bring a smile to a brother in the struggle.

    god willing, you will be liberated in the form of independence.

    All I ask for is the occasional visit visa to a free and liberated valley and ajk!

    Nothing but love.
    Stay strong,
    Usman
    karachi, pakistan.

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  34. @Usman

    Visa??

    The only country in this whole world that morally supports our struggle and we would have a visa for Pakistani brothers and sisters?? Astagfirallah!!

    I foresee a relationship between Kashmir and Pakistan similar to what exists between EU countries. We can iron out the details once we achieve independence.

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  35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuUiWDUBAZw

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  36. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7liVlil9Y

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  37. check this one on facebook

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/video/video.php?v=101963509835612&oid=279694058798

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  38. Brother Yousuf,

    Please check my latest blog n tell me if it makes u smile when u go through it!!!!

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  39. I just checked your blog Chinaar. Very creative and you hit the nail on the head. The right touch of humour certainly gets the point across.

    Beating tin roofs as a sign of protest is not a bad idea!

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  40. I, like almost all other Kashmiris I talked to about this incident, agree that it is Divine Justice, but should be really celebrate and hand out treats?

    I do not think so, let us not treat in the death of soldiers who were not combating, let us not be joyous like our oppressors on the deaths of people who were not in active combat. If we do so, we may become one of them!

    If we call it Divine Justice, I think it is high time that our leaders look and introspect, how much they and indeed we have failed.

    If the time to rely on nature has come upon us, we are in deeper trouble than we think.

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  41. I, like almost all other Kashmiris I talked to about this incident, agree that it is Divine Justice, but should be really celebrate and hand out treats?

    I do not think so, let us not treat in the death of soldiers who were not combating, let us not be joyous like our oppressors on the deaths of people who were not in active combat. If we do so, we may become one of them!

    If people are rejoicing or calling it Divine Justice, I think it is high time that our leaders look and introspect, how much they and we have failed. If the time to rely on nature has come upon us, we are in deeper trouble than we think.

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  42. YEAH YEAH REJOICE WHILE U CAN..HALLUCINATE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES...AND WE WILL REJOICE ONCE WE WIPE INDIA CLEAN OF ANTI-NATIONAL ELEMENTS LIKE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDLY BUNCH OF DELUDED MATES.
    AND HEY...I SAY INDIA ..IN MY POSTS COZ KASHMIR IS AND WILL BE A PART OF INDIA FOR GOOD OR FOR BAD...WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE. AS FAR AS ARMED FORCES ARE CONCERNED ...WE ARE HERE TO GET A JOB DONE AND IT WILL BE DONE...DOGS MAY BARK UNTIL THEY GET SHOT.

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