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9/5/08

Psyc-Ops: Exposing India's Psychological Warfare in Kashmir

This post is going to ruffle more than a few feathers in the Indian intelligentsia as it attempts to expose their hitherto classified techniques used in Kashmir. The context of this topic is the much used technique of "Psyc-Ops" (short for Psychological Operations); a warfare technique used against the enemy to break their will and to gain the upper hand in a conflict.

I came to know about these Psyc-Ops used by the Indians through my research work and by speaking with reliable sources. The objective of these operations is very simple - to take away the main reason of Kashmir's quest for freedom: our identity. The main focus areas that the Indian Inteligentsia seem to be targetting are the areas of rewriting our ancient history; undermining our language and culture; and introducing a third religion in the valley.

I have written briefly about our history of the beginning of foreign occupation of Kashmir in my last post. Here, I will try to elaborate on how the Indians would benefit by rewriting our history to suit their wider agenda of portraying Kashmir as being part of the ancient Indian cultural mosaic. There is no smoking gun or irrefutable source of Kashmir's history that proves we were ever part of any Indian Kingdom in ancient times. Many of these claims are based on a book called "Rajatarangini". This book was written sometime around 1150 AD by an author called Kalhana. Although the book is a good "story" book, it would be very unscientific and naive of us to base our whole understanding of Kashmir's past on this work of fiction. Rajatarangini is a work of fiction because it has the following explanation for Kashmir's early geological origins; "...the valley was once a big lake (Sati Sar) which was drained by Kashyapa after killing the Demon Jalodbhava who was guarding its outlet in Baramulla...". We can either believe in ghosts and demons and believe that Kashmir was part of some ancient Indian Kingdom; or we can look for scientific proof, which sadly this book does not provide.

The Indians cannot take certain paragraphs which suit their arguments, to prove a scientific point, while disregarding others, such as the sentence above - which proves the book is a work of fiction. That is exactly what the Indians are doing. To base their entire arguments that Kashmir was part of the empires of their ancient rulers will certainly need more proof than mere mentions in works of fiction of the past.

There are no temples or old ruins in the valley that remotely refer to any of the old rulers of India. If Kashmir was ever a part of Chandragupta's or Asoka's empire, then there would have been artifacts or old temples, palaces or monuments bearing thier names. There are none; and this alone proves that these rulers were never able to pass the harsh mountain ranges that separate the Valley from the southern plains.

It suits the Indians to propagate this idea of a cultural mingling of Kashmir with the rest of India. That reinforces their argument that Kashmir was within the Indian sphere of influence for most of its history. Fortunately, this is a figment of their imagination and there is no smoking gun to prove any of their claims.

If the Indians were only trying to re-invent our history for us to suit their malicious designs, it would have been easier for us to battle them just on that front; but sadly, they have to open multiple fronts for imposing their culture upon us. This is where their well thought plan to undermine our language comes in. This area is well thought out as it is the most potent and recognisable trait of a different culture. If they can succeed in killing our language, then 75% of their battle has already been won. Sadly it is in this sphere where they have had some success. I have talked about this in my previous post as well and there is no better example of India's Psyc-ops than the exclusion of Kashmiri language teaching in our schools.

The Indian strategy is very subtle and unimposing in its demeanour. They will always claim that it is the Kashmir board of education that is responsible for implementing the school curriculum. However, this is where their plan comes in which they have perfected in 60 years to avoid detection. A few carefully placed henchmen in the ministry of education did their job for the. Piece of cake for the intelligence agencies to pull off. The plan is that should they have imposed Hindi or any other language, it would have been percieved as being Hindu domination and raised flags, so this is where the ingenious plan kicks in. Their motive is to kill the Kashmiri language; they could care less what replaces it.

They thought that should Kashmiris lose their langauge, there will be very little difference between the wider muslims of India and the Kashmiris. Even now this is their main argument, that should KAshmir declare independence, the muslims in India should follow suit and move to Pakistan. Their argument, therefore would be that there is no difference between Indian muslims and the muslims of Kashmir. They would gradually erode all our separate identity that sets us apart from other people of the subcontinent.

If the mean-spirited attitude of the Indian agencies is not evident from the previous points, their moves to introduce a third religion in the valley just goes to show their desperateness. It is no secrect about the full-fledged support of the Indian governemtn to fully fund and support evangelical Christian missionaries in KAshmir. It is also known that Hinduism is not much geared towards accepting converts, so the intelligence agencies innovate, and invite foreign evangelical christians to do their dirty job for them.

to be continued.....

34 comments:

  1. To see your posts from the blogs beginnings to now, I think you are getting paranoid bro...the post sounds ridiculous at its best. And trust me, before you accuse me, I'm neither a religious fanatic nor a member of the intelligence!

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  2. Separatist or not, with the latest post on Phyc-Ops, you have really gone delusional.

    Hinduism does not accept converts. That's true. But that does not mean that people who were formerly Hindus cannot return back into the Hindu fold. You and other Kashmiri Muslims would definitely fall in the latter category. Although I am not sure what the exact equation would be given Kashmiri muslims have not been Hindus for many many generations.

    The government of India lets Christian evangelicals into Varanasi (the holiest of holy Hindu cities), so there is no Hindu conspiracy going on to convert Kashmiries to Christianity.

    By the way, I fully support the idea that Christian evangelist should not be allowed to enter J&K or as a matter of fact anywhere in India. If people convert out of their free well that is ok, but anyone who has any desire to convert others should not be allowed into the country. But, that won't happen in a secular country. This is one case of secularism being pushed too far in India.

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  3. How to guard our identity? ----Well it is an important issue to be dealt with and also when so much is being done to transform it. ---One of the leading leaders of post independent India had said a nations dilution/loss of identity lies in changing its language. The tragedy with our people is we don’t modify our culture etc with time but we just eliminate it from our living. Any nations distinct identity lies in its Religion/culture/cuisine/dress/social habits and all-important language. When we used to be small children we used see our elders (grannies/grandfathers) in their traditional dresses –pheren/Dastaar (kashmiri gown /turban), but now it has changed into salwaar kameez/Skull cap/karakul cap est.’s. As a young boy during journey to villages we used come across women folk and men all in traditional dresses-- now all that is forsaken.
    Wearing of pheren/and having a kangri is just a necessity of winter. Kahmiri bakery which used to be rooth./kandi kulcha/basrak/bakir kani are nowgoing to be things in history. If one goes down to south India people are proud of their culture especially language. But we reduced our language just to a dialect –majority of younger generation have switched to Urdu and even English. It needs all out efforts to save kashmiri from disintegration—The kashmiri script is to be simplified and made readable to young generation. Then also another thing which we are not observing and which is slowly creeping in is marriages outside the race. It has started in-with thousands of students reading outside and more liberal attitude developing-Regarding religion –our belief is strong enough to be challenged- but precautions are necessary.

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  4. Thanks Koshur for touching upon a very sensitive yet under-discussed issue. While there was stiff resistance in Kashmir to the transfer of land to Shrine Board, most of the people on streets here were not aware of the cultural invasion perpetrated by Indian state under the garb of modernization and development. Our previous governor Retd. Gen. S.K.Sinha was here with a hindutva-based communal agenda. Whole catastrophy of Amarnath land row is just an outcome of his hidden fundamentalist agenda and his secret moves to change the meaning of our basic ethos i.e., Kashmiriyat. He made several moves in this direction like the establishment of Institute of Kashmir Studies in the University of Kashmir whose vision document is a solid proof of his hidden policy of cultural invasion. By way of establishing this institute, ex-governor made a futile attempt to change the very meaning of Kashmiriyat. He was the one who would blabber about the slogan of "hamla-awar hoshiar hum kashmiri hein tayaar" at every possible forum and blissfully change it into "humla-awar hoshiar, hum sikh, hindu, musalmaan hai tayaar". The very idea of setting up this institute was to cause infiltration of saffron agenda into Kashmiriyat. Besides he wanted to establish Shaarda peeth University again with an idea to re-write the history of kashmir and its secular traditions, conveniently manipulating it to suit the proliferation of hindutva programms in the valley. He was the one who in violation to hindu religious norms extended the duration of amarnath yatra from one month to two months, whereas the bearer of Chardi Mubarak (Mahant Deependra Giri) of Dashnami Akhara has time and again clarified that religious importance of this yatra is only for fifteen days from vyas purnima to shrawan purnima. Beyond this period yatra holds no religious significance at all. He was the man responsible for playing with religious sentiments of all hindus by replacing the natural shiv lingham with an artificial one last year and even had long term plans to permanently install an ice-lingham at the cave site which could be visited by hindus throughout the year. The whole issue of amarnath land row was camouflauged and sabotaged by Gen. Sinha and his leftaunent Arun Kumar. It was on his directions that Arun Kumar held a press conference and declared that land has been permanently transfered to shrine board and thus triggered the whole controversy with his misinformation campaign. If anybody has to be punished for dividing the people of J&K on religious lines and creating a wedge between them besides sangh parivar, it is Gen.Sinha and Arun Kumar. Thank god he was shown the door at an appropriate time, otherwise god only knows what other calamities he would have inflicted on this poor nation.

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  5. Thanks Koshur for touching upon a very sensitive yet under-discussed issue. While there was stiff resistance in Kashmir to the transfer of land to Shrine Board, most of the people on streets here were not aware of the cultural invasion perpetrated by Indian state under the garb of modernization and development. Our previous governor Retd. Gen. S.K.Sinha was here with a hindutva-based communal agenda. Whole catastrophy of Amarnath land row is just an outcome of his hidden fundamentalist agenda and his secret moves to change the meaning of our basic ethos i.e., Kashmiriyat. He made several moves in this direction like the establishment of Institute of Kashmir Studies in the University of Kashmir whose vision document is a solid proof of his hidden policy of cultural invasion. By way of establishing this institute, ex-governor made a futile attempt to change the very meaning of Kashmiriyat. He was the one who would blabber about the slogan of "hamla-awar hoshiar hum kashmiri hein tayaar" at every possible forum and blissfully change it into "humla-awar hoshiar, hum sikh, hindu, musalmaan hai tayaar". The very idea of setting up this institute was to cause infiltration of saffron agenda into Kashmiriyat. Besides he wanted to establish Shaarda peeth University again with an idea to re-write the history of kashmir and its secular traditions, conveniently manipulating it to suit the proliferation of hindutva programms in the valley. He was the one who in violation to hindu religious norms extended the duration of amarnath yatra from one month to two months, whereas the bearer of Chardi Mubarak (Mahant Deependra Giri) of Dashnami Akhara has time and again clarified that religious importance of this yatra is only for fifteen days from vyas purnima to shrawan purnima. Beyond this period yatra holds no religious significance at all. He was the man responsible for playing with religious sentiments of all hindus by replacing the natural shiv lingham with an artificial one last year and even had long term plans to permanently install an ice-lingham at the cave site which could be visited by hindus throughout the year. The whole issue of amarnath land row was camouflauged and sabotaged by Gen. Sinha and his leftaunent Arun Kumar. It was on his directions that Arun Kumar held a press conference and declared that land has been permanently transfered to shrine board and thus triggered the whole controversy with his misinformation campaign. If anybody has to be punished for dividing the people of J&K on religious lines and creating a wedge between them besides sangh parivar, it is Gen.Sinha and Arun Kumar. Thank god he was shown the door at an appropriate time, otherwise god only knows what other calamities he would have inflicted on this poor nation.

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  6. Reading your previous blogs I had an impression that you are a sensitive, educated Kashmiri with a world view. But alas! I was wrong. With your latest blog you reduced yourself to likes of Raj Thakery, Pradeep Togadia and other regional and religious rabble rousers. We in India are already fed up with such kind of thought process. So spare us one more addition to this rogue gallery.

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  7. Beautiful article Koshur,

    Keep it up..we need to fight the Indians on all fronts.

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  8. Another form of psy-op was the much bragged Instrument Accession. I have posted an article on that on my blog.
    It might serve as an eye opener for may
    regards,

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  9. So, if a book had satan referral it will be believable but if it had demons it is not, is it? Isn't that intolerance?

    For that matter, south india was never a part of any of the large kingdoms from north till the britishers came, we still exist as a part of india.

    Get out of your narrrow minded view, every region in india has a very distinct history. In the past, india was like europe, we merged, it is for the better.

    Europe is also trying to merge now.

    Separatism is a never good thing.


    -ft

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  10. Since kashmiri pandits also are from Kashmir and the land belongs to them as well, would you be ready to give away a part of your nation for them.

    I don't buy the theory that kashmiri pandits left on their own will to paint the kashmiri muslims in a bad light. It would be good for the our government, if they had stayed back, to show case their case.

    It was the fear of genocide from the militants that made them leave the land. Even now this proposed nation you talk about has religious bias.

    Nobody would leave their land for money, look at all the people affected by dam in Gujarat, they are not willing to move even when paid money. You have chosen to hide the horrors inflicted upon them and even dare to call them traitors.

    Yet commenters here have decided to twist their story, calling them traitors.

    If they wanted to continue being part of India, is that wrong. Arent they allowed to have an opinion? If the opinion is contrary to yours, they are traitors? Isn't that intolerance in your part?




    -ft

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  11. Indeed India has covertly opened many fronts since 1947 to subjugate Kashmiris.It is a fault of ours that we believed in the farce of secularism of India which was propagated by the then Leaders of India like Gandhi and Nehru.Ghandhi's intentions may have been good but the events aftermath proved that Nehru was a turn coat. We Kashmiri's should apologize to the brave tribals for our betrayal. They came for our help but we sold them to Indians. history will never forgive us for that.I have wide cycle of Pakistani friends, They all love Kashmir and feel our pain and anguish, but when I ask them why dont Pakistan do something for Kashmiri's, There answer makes me to lower my head. They say we went to help you in 1947,1965 ,but you people helped Indian agencies to trace and Kill us. You sold us for pennies. Unfortunately this is true and we anr now reaping what we have sowed. How come we could have trusted India, Whose people Killed old men and women, Raped Muslim women, Cut their breasts, Private parts of men and women. Put on spears Muslim children. We sold their blood. We are very bad people. May Allah Give us Guidance.Ameen.
    We should now start from ourselves to protect our identity, language etc.Educate our children about our history, Indians betrayal, so that when next generation will come they will be more aware of their Kashmiri culture and History.

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  12. To those anonymous----What I perceive from you is that we should be tolerant because- we are unequal and weaker than you---and we should tolerate everything from --abuses and misuses of majority. What you mean by majority isn’t it religion –nothing comes out of sudden whims of people---because you think we are whimsical? —Who are obsessed with Azadi –Oh sane people! If you are? It didn’t happen overnight—There is genesis behind it – sorrow, oppression, broken promises, discrimination ,humiliation ,slavery ,inhuman attitude and intolerance of centuries by our rulers-it didn’t finish 60 yrs ago that time it transformed from hegemony- of one family to a larger family of so called democrats and secularists. That is truth.

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  13. To the anon., when I say intolerance, i referred to the intolerance to the word demon.

    "Unequal and Weaker" no, not even for a second, such a thought crossed by my mind and it never will.

    And I did not quite get, "it didn’t finish 60 yrs ago that time it transformed from hegemony- of one family to a larger family of so called democrats and secularists. That is truth."

    Are you saying the oppression... by centuries of rulers continued during this so called democratic and secular rule.

    India is not a country of homogenous culture, it is diverse from south to north and the goal is to maintain the rich diversity and yet stay united.

    For eg, in south when hindi as a language was forced on us, people revolted and hindi is no longer forced.... I maintain that every effort has to be done to preserve this rich diverse culture of the country.

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  14. @koshur

    This indeed is bordering on paranoia. You are seeing ghosts where there are none to be had.

    Every community of 5-10 million people in India feels it is as unique as Kashmiris think of themselves as being unique. These communities have learnt to accept each others' differences and live peacefully and happily (mostly :-) that is).

    I believe that the alienation of some kashmiris in the valley is so complete that their entire outlook to life has become coloured with anti-India colours. Freedom for them is the only solution. Unfortunately the Indian constitution has no provision for allowing secession for any entity, least of all for a grouping of 4 million people. So we are back into the mess of an armed separatism again with all the unintended victims and even more alienation. The sad vicious circle continues while perfectly well-meaning people from India invite derision on Kashmiri forums for just being 'Indian'.

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  15. I see a change in your blog posts now, from pro-India to somewhat pro-Kashmir, strange indeed are the ways of the world.

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  16. India , a country of different cultures , religions , races , tribes has put forward an example of the democratic ,secular republic which practically happens and has not been only in the books of constitution .Our constitution is one of the best constitutions of the world as it is the collection of selective articles of different countries which hav been taken into consideration with the problems which were faced from time to time. Inspite of all this somewhere in my mind i feel depressed , shattered , and anghuished to see that the constitution of our country is not applied in reality . People keep violating it , defaming our motherland , chanting anti national slogans . The most touching thing is that when they burn our national flag as in j&k.
    The problem is not with all the kashmirites , afew persons have defamed the whole image of kashmiries . and the main culprits are Syed Ali Shah Geelani , yasin malik , mirwaiz omar farooq.shabir ahmed shah . etc the so called separatists.
    The problem with kashmiries is that they dont have their own stand , they walk like what sheeps do ( if one sheep goes to left , the whole herd goes in that direction without knowing the reason).
    i have some questions for geelani .
    - was it genuine to cross loc while expecting that govt. of india will watch like mere spectator????
    - why you change your stand from 'fruit trade' to 'freedom'???? when you started and gathered people in the name of muzaffarabad chalo to sell your fruit??????
    - why is none of your son involved in militancy?????? is he superior than other kashmirites and born to earn pounds?????????
    -why you go to indian hospitals for your treatment when you dont like india????????
    - why you visit USA with an indian passport for surgeries????????
    - why you keep security appointed by indian govt when you are fighting against them????????
    - what is the future of a dailywager who earns per day to nurture his family???????? as you call for strikes frequently?????
    its enough healing touch for such people and for few miscreants we cannot not defame the whole kashmir .so my appeal to the govt of india is that these so called separatists must be put behind bars for sedition and waging war against our motherland .

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  17. This is to answer rajiv.We kashmiris have nothing to do with your great India,Its multi cultural and multiligual population. We are not interested how and what Indians do and how they behave with each other. We are a occupied country which has been occupied by India and Pakistan in 1947. If tomorrow India will occupy Nepal you will propagate to Nepalese about the cultural diversity of India. If you think they will accept your argument then you are living in utopia. we were occupied by India and then oppressed to its extreme.Thomas Jefferson says " People revolt when conditions become unbearable ".We believed in farce democracy and secularism of India and tried to live with it but unfortunately India never considered Kashmiris it's citizens.It always hatched conspiracies against us and any voice of dissent was silenced with brute force.You are talikg high of your constitution.May be it is so but we haven’t seen it implemented in Kashmir.Your constitution is good as long as you read it.When comes to practical implementation there is always a different story to tell.We were never a part of your country so for us your constitution means nothing.We have UN military observers here.We have Un resolutions on Kashmir which need to be implemented as promised by your first prime minister and UN.Kashmir issue is not as Punjab or any other part of India.
    I'll answer you on behalf of our Leader
    1- When India imposes an covert blockade of Kashmir to starve us ,when our babies were without milk,when our hospitals were without lifesaving medicine, when Insulin dependent people were without Insulin shorts. What Kashmiri's were supposed to do?
    Muzzaffarabad is a part of Kashmir so we Kashmiris have every right to go to any place which is our's and who are you India and Pakistan that will deprive us from this.Indeed we were going there to sell our fruit and erode the cease fire line made on our hearts by occupying armies of India and Pakistan. When just going to our own part of Kashmir to neutralise the covert blockade of Kashmir by India we were showered by Bullets by Occupational army of India. What do you think we will still sit as mute spectators? India has been performing genocide of Kashmiri Muslims from 1947. Economic blockade was a last straw.People of kashmir have realised that the armed struggle launched in 1989 was a right move and It’s a right time to force India out of our pious land by staging non violent protests.Had India been a democracy It would had accepted the referendum and packed its bags.But Inshallah today tomorrow a day after tomorrow it will leave, and Kashmir will be an Independent Secular country.

    2- There is no need for His sons to be Militants .We have enough strength to kick your army from here. It is for us to decide who will be a militant and who will not be..
    3- Because your Democratic India has refused to issue him a passport he couldn’t go to Islamabad for treatment.
    4- How he can go to U.S.A If he doesn't have a passport.
    5-You talk about the daily wager's.I'ts better to sleep hungry than to get Killed by Occupational army every day. What was the fault of javed Ahmed of Nowhatta who was shot by occupational army while he was having a baby in his arms, Just because he was a Muslim he was showered with bullets.He was also a daily wager. Where were you when our Drivers were lynched by Hindu Mobs? Todays strikes will be tomorrows prosperity, freedom when no Indian or Pakistani will not ask us Id in our own land. Healing touch is now freedom only and nothing else.Your appeal to Govt.Of India has no means as India already has changed Kashmir a prison where every lane and paddy field is manned by Occupational forces.

    Waleed

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  18. @waleed

    Would you at least agree:
    (1) that Kashmiris have the freedom to spew venom on India ?
    (2) that Kashmiris have the freedom to trash India and its democracy ?
    (3) that Kashmiris have the right to openly profess to having ideas about being an independent country ?(Yasin Malik and other hurriyat members that advocate independence)
    (4) that Kashmiris have the right to openly profess to having ideas about merging with Pakistan ?(Gilani and other hurriyat members that advocate merging with Pakistan)
    (5) that Kashmiris have the right to openly celebrate Pakistan wins in cricket matches ?
    (6) that Kashmiris have the right to insult lakhs of Indian tourists who used to visit the place the past, and visited in the past couple of years ?
    (7) that Kashmiris have the right to complain inconsolably about the 'discriminatory' treatment meted out to them ?

    The truth about being in a democracy is never having to question that you indeed can and do these things.

    I rest my case.

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  19. Hi,

    Dear Blogger, do you mean that Kashmiri language which you are talking about is writing Kashmiri in Persian script.

    Do you really know that Kashmiri language had its own script which is know as Sharda and which was killed by Muslim rulers in exactly the same fashion the way you are blaming India for killing Kashmiri in Persian script. This really sounds funny.

    If you properly see any Indian currency note, just to provide legitimacy to Persian Kashmiri, you will see the denomination written in Persian Kashmiri.

    Its just for your eye opening.

    Just do some research on Sharda and you will come to know what real Kashmiri is and what the script looks like.

    You and your kinds will still remain ostriches.

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  20. Just to give you more insights into Kashmiri language, vist this web site where you will see the Kashmiri characters and a lot more.

    Start learning. its not Media creation.

    http://www.koshur.org/index.html

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  21. Now that you haven't seen temples of the Ashoka period, go to Avantipora.

    Ok let me spare you a trip.

    Come and see them

    http://www.travelpod.com/travel-photo/mrs75/ontheroad007/1180703700/img_8922.jpg/tpod.html

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  22. well here is what dr waleed sheikh wrote tome inmy mail whichi questioned in this blog .....he must have replied it here ......
    Dr,Waleed Sheikh has left a new comment on the post "Psyc-Ops: Exposing India's Psychological Warfare i...":

    This is to answer rajiv.We kashmiris have nothing to do with your great India,Its multi cultural and multiligual population. We are not interested how and what Indians do and how they behave with each other. We are a occupied country which has been occupied by India and Pakistan in 1947. If tomorrow India will occupy Nepal you will propagate to Nepalese about the cultural diversity of India. If you think they will accept your argument then you are living in utopia. we were occupied by India and then oppressed to its extreme.Thomas Jefferson says " People revolt when conditions become unbearable ".We believed in farce democracy and secularism of India and tried to live with it but unfortunately India never considered Kashmiris it's citizens.It always hatched conspiracies against us and any voice of dissent was silenced with brute force.You are talikg high of your constitution.May be it is so but we haven’t seen it implemented in Kashmir.Your constitution is good as long as you read it.When comes to practical implementation there is always a different story to tell.We were never a part of your country so for us your constitution means nothing.We have UN military observers here.We have Un resolutions on Kashmir which need to be implemented as promised by your first prime minister and UN.Kashmir issue is not as Punjab or any other part of India.
    I'll answer you on behalf of our Leader
    1- When India imposes an covert blockade of Kashmir to starve us ,when our babies were without milk,when our hospitals were without lifesaving medicine, when Insulin dependent people were without Insulin shorts. What Kashmiri's were supposed to do?
    Muzzaffarabad is a part of Kashmir so we Kashmiris have every right to go to any place which is our's and who are you India and Pakistan that will deprive us from this.Indeed we were going there to sell our fruit and erode the cease fire line made on our hearts by occupying armies of India and Pakistan. When just going to our own part of Kashmir to neutralise the covert blockade of Kashmir by India we were showered by Bullets by Occupational army of India. What do you think we will still sit as mute spectators? India has been performing genocide of Kashmiri Muslims from 1947. Economic blockade was a last straw.People of kashmir have realised that the armed struggle launched in 1989 was a right move and It’s a right time to force India out of our pious land by staging non violent protests.Had India been a democracy It would had accepted the referendum and packed its bags.But Inshallah today tomorrow a day after tomorrow it will leave, and Kashmir will be an Independent Secular country.

    2- There is no need for His sons to be Militants .We have enough strength to kick your army from here. It is for us to decide who will be a militant and who will not be..
    3- Because your Democratic India has refused to issue him a passport he couldn’t go to Islamabad for treatment.
    4- How he can go to U.S.A If he doesn't have a passport.
    5-You talk about the daily wager's.I'ts better to sleep hungry than to get Killed by Occupational army every day. What was the fault of javed Ahmed of Nowhatta who was shot by occupational army while he was having a baby in his arms, Just because he was a Muslim he was showered with bullets.He was also a daily wager. Where were you when our Drivers were lynched by Hindu Mobs? Todays strikes will be tomorrows prosperity, freedom when no Indian or Pakistani will not ask us Id in our own land. Healing touch is now freedom only and nothing else.Your appeal to Govt.Of India has no means as India already has changed Kashmir a prison where every lane and paddy field is manned by Occupational forces.

    Waleed
    ..............................
    well bro waleed i can understand that this time u guys are having a blind faith on hurriyat leaders ....
    well u said that on 11th march u were taking fruit to muzaffarabad ...nmy dear not a single truck loaded with fruit was there goingto muzaffarabad becos they were not allowed from the mandi but u guys still marched to muzaffarabad ....
    well u are saying that blockade was there n u faced starvation... dear when in winters for months the highway remains blocked then at that time u dont face such starvation??????
    and now why are you returning trucks back to jammu?????
    you said that india has illegal occupation over kashmir ... brother this is not the way to solve it ... and if you will try like this the result will be even more dreadful.....
    the question is not how many militants are there .... but when gilani doesnt fulfill the requirement ffrom his home so he has no right to kill innocent persons by fluching them in militancy.. havnt u heard that charity begins at home....
    why you guys chant about article 370 when u dont recognise indian constitution ?????? at least be one faceted....
    well the fault of javed Ahmed of Nowhatta was nothing but it was of people like you who pelted stones and made army to react .....
    u say that kashmiries are carrying out processions peacefully ..man then whats this stone pelting ... burning and destroying public property.... talk some sense man!!!!!May Allah show you guys the right path .....

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  23. You seem to have rejected my comment where i had sent you the link for the actual Kashmiri Language, but it seems it was too grouse for your sensibilities.
    Here again, i send it and if you have the guts keep the comments for the Kashmiris and others to know what kashmiri language is:

    http://www.koshur.org/

    Why are you so scared of your own duplicity

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  24. @To some recent anonymous posters whose comments I didnt approve:

    I will not post comments that are more so intended to adveretise your websites than related to the topic I am discussing.

    @everyone

    I am sorry for not replying to many good points brought up here; although I want to post counter arguments, however I will do so when I have more time. Work is piled up and much higher on the priority list.

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  25. hi Koshur,

    This is what is know as suppressing the truth. The website which i sent was about the real Kashmiri language about which you have posted your blog.
    I am quite sure you wont post this comment of mine either.
    You have links to all the web-site swhich are pro-kashmir independence.
    But you fear to approve a comment which is a link to kashmiri language.

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  26. If India is true democratic System it would allow the people of J&K to vote for their future .Why not have an option in the upcoming election for the people to vote for their future. May be people will vote for being a part of India or whatever other option they choose.
    Every time people talk about solving this issue they impose their decision on people I think it would be great to let people have the say in deciding their Future

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  27. well dear manzoor ... u are right that talks should be made to solve kashmir issue ... even i say that if kashmiries favour self determination they should be allowed but it has to be done systematically .and what is happening there now adays in thesecircumstancs it cant be done.
    you just tell me even govt of india are saying that we ll go look into it but first you bring cool. but you tell me what is the reaction of huriyat leaders why dont they agree for it . and always instigate people in valley.
    even i must say that if gilani saab is a great leader then he should have appealed topeople not to get on streets because mob has no face no shape and once mob comes out it has to become unlawful .and because of that many precious lives are wasted.i must say if gilani was really concern about it he would not hav asked for such marches which produces such situations in which precious lives are wasted.
    and one thing i must say , i knw people ll not agree but its the reality n ll be realised with cool mind
    once sheikh abdullah was also a hero as today it is gilani .......and at that time what abdullah did is he made kashmiris to join india ...and now this time gilani will make accession with pakistan and the coming generation will be abusing gilani for this in future ...time will decide if kashmir is freed....

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  28. well, well someone somewhere has made a futile and unsuccessful bid to hack my blog www.kashmir-on-boil.blogspot.com Whosoever has attempted it, I wish to convey to him and his entire ilk that you may succeed in hacking blogs, websites and e-mails but you will never succeed in hacking the truth. Even your books say (which you don't surprisingly practice) "Satyameva jayate". If you can't bear to see the truth that is reflected by the images posted on my blog, better turn your head around as you have been doing at every such occasion. These picture showcase the real face of Indian democracy which is ruthless, brutal and barbaric in essence. After seeing what you people are doing to our children, youth, old-aged and women, no conscious Kashmiri would ever want to live with you. To hell with your money, your power, your economics, your supplies, your support, if you do all this to us, we are no longer going to side with you. So far as our survival after independence is concerned, don't you worry about that, leave us alone. We will prefer to die in harness than annexing with your brutal and barbaric nation. We have seen the malicious misinformation campaign launched by jammuites under the patronage of sangh parivar against kashmir and muslims. They have been crying hoax and beating their chest about their so-called discrimination whereas the fact of the matter is that it is Kashmir valley and Kashmiri muslims that have been discriminated against at every front. Our voice gets subdued in a deft nation called India that is marred by communal frenzy. At Jammu they commit all their wrongs and perpetrate most heinous offences under the garb of nationalism and at Kashmir, whatever good we do, is rubbished under the garb of secessionism. What a tragedy of sorts.

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  29. Dear Kashour
    A/A
    It has been too long since your last post.I hope you are doing well.

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  30. @ kashmir on boil said...
    dont point out that discrimination against kashmir and muslims ....rather say kashmiri muslims ... u have made hell for the rest of the indian muslims also ....
    always u keep saying that indian troops canned innocent kashmiri's for peaceful protest ...my foot ... what do u mean by peaceful march ... in which u pelt stones????? u show vulgar signs to crpf n police and inciting them ????
    my dear u are such sick people that u are responsible for the desecration of dastgir sahib shrine ...was it making sense to take shelter there after pelting stones and shouting anti national slogans ???? u guys are ur self responsible for the desecration of these pious places .... you made the charar e shareef incident to happen some decade n a half yrs back ..... ur own brothers( militants) took shelter in hazrat bal ...but hats off to indian troops for keeping calm n didnt going for ny untoward to flush militants .....
    and after all ur sick leader who has no self image gilani says that this is all the handiwork of govt agents ....disgusting!!!!!!
    see your self how much stone is there on maisuma roads ...is it that crpf brought it with themselves?????? my dear jago n get these dirty thinking to flush out from ur brain......sympathies with u dumb people ....

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  31. Friend ,I am visiting your blog off and on and i had a feeling that deep down you are logical -but it seems the wonderful paradise is having an effect on you -you are today flying on the wings of imagination and soaring dangerously high -Welcome to the Club of LOTUS EATERS....
    Regards

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  32. Bismillah-E-Rehman-E-Rahim, Sab Hindu bhaiyo ko bhi Ram-Ram,

    Terrorists O Terrorists,

    WHY DONT YOU LEAVE WE MOSLEMS PEACEFULLY WITH HINDUS TOGETHER. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS IN KASHMIR. SETTLE IT THERE. DONT COME HERE. YOUR BOMB BLASTS CREATE PANIC AND FEAR IN DELHI MOSLEMS.

    HOW LONG HINDUS WILL BE PATIENT ? THEY ARE ALSO HUMANBEING. IF WE KILL A BUFFALO, EVEN HE TRIES TO ESCAPE AND FIGHT. IF HINDUS STARTED FIGHTING ALONGWITH POLICE AND ARMY THEN ?

    FOR ALLAH'S SAKE, LEAVE US.

    YOU EYE ABOUT HINDUSTAN, WE WILL LIKE TO SAY -

    PAKISTAN TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
    HINDUSTAN KE DUSHMANO TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
    ANTAKWADIYO TUMHARI MA*UT AAY*E..
    PYAR, BHAICHARA, SHANTI AUR ALLAH KE DUSHMANO TUMHARI MAU*T AAY*E..

    insallah humari fatah aur hindustan ke dushmano ki shikast hogi !!!

    Allah hafij

    Julfikar Ali on behalf of all Delhi Muslims
    Muzlis-E-Islam
    New Delhi
    psss: This is one of the comments at my blog featuring at The Times of India Homepage -
    o3.indiatimes.com/skjdesk

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  33. Please check Wikipedia, or any source of world history for that purpose it will show the chronological order of Kashmir History before Islam was adopted by certain resident of the kashmir.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir

    It mentions :
    n the first half of the first millennium, Kashmir became an important centre of Hinduism and later of Buddhism;

    The first rule of Islam in Kashmir is
    In 1349, Shah Mirza became the first Muslim ruler of Kashmir and inaugurated the line Salatin-i-Kashmir.

    Regarding pre historic details:
    Go to following link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakoram_Highway

    And check the section:
    Rock art and petroglyphs


    The above are not Hinduatva Agents but are the facts of History.

    I can not change your personal view, but at the same time your blog can not change the History.

    Thanks.

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  34. This is not a comment but a message.

    Dear Muslim Brother,

    I have been following the following website which tells the other face of islam and how the western world sees it.

    i think that you very intelligent, can you counteract Robert Spencer and show him the example of Kashmiriyat as an answer to his propognda.

    I will encourage you go through the various links which are onto the left of it, there are couple of movies,

    I think Islam and its image is in danger and Kashmiryat should show a response to this danger.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    Thanks.

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